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Anydragon · Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 12:40 pm Post subject: PAGAN - Religion of dragons?

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PAGAN - Religion of dragons?

From : Ellsantyr
Date : Saturday, February 15, 2003 12:51 AM

Do dragons actually have a religion? Not that I know of. We are natural elemental spirits, some of whom have become bonded to human souls so that they may live for a while.

Now, the human may decide before realizing the truth of what they are to be christian or islamic, jewish, etc... but once the draconic side "awakens" (for lack of better term) these things tend to change. The truths of these religions are a bit different in the eyes of a dragon who has been around for all of it. The figures represented in the religions and the books which lead them hold some respect, but they are no longer considered deific and the word of god by most who are draconic.

Most consider dragons to be Pagan. I've been labeled everything in the book, but I don't think I believe completely in any certain dogma...including Wiccan or Celtic ideology.

I call myself Pagan now. I wear a Celtic cross and I am drawn to celtic things, but I don't agree with all of that either. Deities in particular give me a bad feeling, after all you are placing yourself below human heroes made into gods. Why would a dragon wish to do so?

*Showing honor and respect is different than worship

So, what does Pagan mean to you? And if you have anything to add to the commentary so far, by all means, go ahead.

Ellsantyr

PS- For you who are so small minded as to think I am bashing anyone in this commentary, I assure you I am simply placing a topic out from which a discussion can begin. I think many times we have carried political correctness too far, especially when we begin trying to apologize for everything said. Sometimes I believe people can benefit from remembering the simple statements: Speak without Offending. Listen without Defending.

http://web.archive.org/web/200310...cussion/show.asp?file=pagan1.html

Anydragon · Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 12:41 pm Post subject:

From : Taren
Date : Saturday, February 15, 2003 2:21 AM
I'm going backwards through the questions, but that's just my style:

My honest-to-god opinion:
When someone mentions paganism, it usually makes me think of the stereotypical Wiccan. The feminist bunny-hugger/tree-hugger. No offense intended.

My theories:
I've noticed that a lot of dragons- especially the ones under 21- are more inclined to becoming pagan. They feel that as they revolt against their humanity*, they might as well revolt against religion while they're at it.*Revolting caused by the desire to separate/stand out.

It's always been my understanding that humans created religion to explain unnatural phenomenon that couldn't be explained with the science of the day (see ancient Greece) and/or to satisfy their innate need to be subordinate to something. Humans can't seem to get along without a person in charge, be it a king, president, or diety.

This is the kind of stuff I want to post about. Open discussion of stuff. I know full well that at least one thing is here is far from being correct, but that's what discussion is for- so I can become enlightened.

-Taren

Anydragon · Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 12:41 pm Post subject:

From : P. Birley
Date : Saturday, February 15, 2003 2:25 AM
i am sorry if i have this wrong but so called dragons have a person incharge as well. may it be a higher dragon or the dragon but there is stillsomone taht is higher than another.

Anydragon · Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 12:41 pm Post subject:

From : Dragon
Date : Saturday, February 15, 2003 3:07 AM
Thats like Saying all Humans are Christian. No, Dragons are not Pagans itsjust that most pagans like to use Dragons same goes with magick stuff.

I don't know why really..

Anydragon · Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 12:42 pm Post subject:

From : Da'alrakken
Date : Saturday, February 15, 2003 1:30 PM
Do Dragons have a relgion? For me and my species, it would not be classified as such. It is more a way of life. A unity with the Cosmos. We do have a "spiritual sect" that offers aid in finding a stronger connction with the Cosmos. There are no Gods or Goddesses involved. We do however, recognize them and thank them for what they have done and do. Yet, they are not the centerpieces of what we believe. From what little I do know of Taoism here on this would, I would say that is the closest thing I can compare it to.

I define Pagan as any spiritual path that does not follow the major "recognized" religions of this word. A spirituality that recognizes the forces, energy and connections with the natural world... this Planet and the very Cosmos itself.

I do not follow any convictions of conventional religions of this world ..how could I? I am Dragon. I cannot follow a system of beliefs that a Human would. The exterior may be Human but, the very nature of spirituality is the soul ... at that is Dragon.

There are some aspects of some Human religions that do resonate with what I know to be true. For me, it is like picking and choosing some of these ideas, balanced with what I already know and feel in my Heart and Soul. I have read that some think that this "picking and choosing" dilutes the relgion that they are derived from. Form their view point, that may very well be true. For me, it is as simple as following my Heart and listening to my Soul.

Be well,
Da'alrakken

Anydragon · Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2008 12:42 pm Post subject:

From : Carkothianin
Date : Sunday, February 16, 2003 5:06 AM
I wouldn't say dragons would have any particular religion at all. From what I remember, my clan thoughts where all thinking on the same level (versus the humans in this day and age, them fighting eachother) and where at balance with our surroundings. perhaps the only gods of my religion are my friends and family? Who's to say?

As, i'm sure, that everyone would agree that a dragon does NOT like to be controlled by anyone. A fierce and free spirit.

Also, celtic culture was very attuned with the spirit and in some cases (if not all) dragons where involved. Much like the native americans, but on a different land, the spirits are everywhere.

It's too bad that there is alot of flaming (from what i hear) on the lists. I did my best to ignore them, even without noticing it Razz

. Seriously, I'm never a person that will not take criticism in both positive and negative lights, and truths or what have you.

Keep strong, and your hope shall not fade.

"Much like when the blade is sharpened, so shall the wielder sharpen thier soul with the stone called honor"

"In the darkness, the dragon wakes. To a heart numbed with cold, the dragon roars. With you by my side, the dragon sleeps. When the dragon gains wings, into the sky our hopes will leap."

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Date : Sunday, February 16, 2003 5:55 PM

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